January 21, 2011 Subject:
Questions To Bassam
Good debate. This question is to Bassam.
Was wondering if 200 verses of Sura 33 were abrogated?
"Ubayy bin Ka'b asked the people around him, "How many verses do you count in Surah Ahzâb (The 33rd Surah of the Quran)?" They replied, "72 or 73 verses." Ubayy said to them, "Surah Ahzab used to contain the same number of verses as Surah Baqarah (over 280 verses) or more. We used to recite a verse from Surah Ahzab, 'When a muhsan male and female commit adultery, then stone them both as a deterrent [punishment] from Allah.'" (An-Nasai and Abdullah ibn Ahmad ibn Hanbal both have narrated this hadith. Hafiz ibn Hajar has classified this as a hasan hadith (Muwafaqatu Al-Khubr Al-Khabr - vol. 2, pg. 304).
"Among various narratives there are certain narratives which give an impression that in the Surah Al-Ahzab there were 200 ayat, but when Uthman (R) copied down the Quran, he could write only those ayat which are at present found in the Quran. After quoting this narrative, Allama Alusi writes that from this it appears that some of the Quran has been lost, but such a narrative can only be invented and concocted one. In fact every narrative which states that some part of Quran has been lost is either invented or needs some interpretation (i.e. it means something else.) (Tafseer Ruhul Ma'ani - Vol. 7 - Page 142 - cited in: Dr F Ajmeri - Dawat-Ul Quran - Volume 3 - Page 1434).
(05:21-onwards), the brother quotes scholars and Aisha indicating that the 200+ verses were abrogated. Is is true that there were that many verses abrogated? Also, what type of abrogation relates to these 200 abrogated verses? Abrogation of recitation or both ruling & recitation?
Or is the above wrong, meaning, was this claim that 200 verses in Sura 33 is fabricated in it's matn?
"There is a tradition is Usulul Kafi, narrated by Hazrat Jaffer Sadiq, that Jibril, (Pb.u.h.) had bought this revelation to Muhammad, Sallal Lahu Alaihi Wa Sallam:
"O People of the Book! Believe in what We have sent down (about Ali) it is clear light." (Usulul Kafi, V.i, p.345).
But this ayah is nowhere to be found in the Quran." (Dr F Ajmeri - Dawat-Ul Quran - Volume 3 - Page 1435).
Was the above verse abrogated, or is this tradition fabricated?